studying in china

[sabresaurus]

I emphasized neither Singapore nor Japan, but simply provided objective and complete information.

[Lots of] Information that's irrelevant to the argument.

I did not watch the contest, but I don't see anything wrong with working on the quality instead of the quantity.

LOL I don't think you got the 'joke'.

Nobody sent me to the U.S. I made a choice for my life to experience a different world.

So what was your point by saying:

"I disagree. I got my B.S. and M.S. in science and engineering field in China before going to a graduate school in the U.S. on a scholarship. I knew how much I was ahead of not only other students there but some professors in my fields, which was not unusual for many Chinese graduate students in the U.S."

[Jatoo]

My point was I disagreed to what you said about the education in China, "School fees are lower...and so is the quality of education." Like other places in the world including the U.S., there are schools poor in quality, and schools decent in quality in China. I simply did not see a reason how a well informed person could jump to that kind of conclusion.

[Andy]

Oh..sabrina,Andy.. my spirit is now down. Should l not pay the money for studying in china university?

Collins, I don't know which degree or area of study u intend to pursue. Any scholar should be able to have a fixed study plan before enrollment in a university. I don't think my personal opinion is sufficient to dissuade u from your already thought out course of action. Keep focused and know what u actually want. I reiterate, the main problem with studying a specialized major in China is the language. But if u make adequate plans, I'm confident the plusses will outdo the odds.

[collinstexas]

Sabrina,how about studying medicine and surgery? l think china is a good place to study medicine.
Language?l have always thought that the big problem will be the language,but you must pass the HSK exam(which is a 6 months or one year program) before you get enrolled in any course,so my question is this;can one master the language within this 1 year?

Oh..Andy,this question is for you

Thnx

[sabresaurus]

My point was I disagreed to what you said about the education in China, "School fees are lower...and so is the quality of education." Like other places in the world including the U.S., there are schools poor in quality, and schools decent in quality in China. I simply did not see a reason how a well informed person could jump to that kind of conclusion.

Hahah...I'm not jumping to conclusions, I'm just stating my opinion to Collinstexas through personal experience as a foreign student here in China.  I do have my reasons.

Like you're telling us that when you went to the US you seemed to know a lot more than everybody else.  There are bright students everywhere in the world.  If you feel it's because you came from a high quality school in China, then fine.  But I believe that at university level, success depends on the student's personal hard work and not necessarily only the quality of the institution they're in.

And as for my saying "School fees are lower...and so is the quality of education", I still wouldn't take that back.  I said "lowER" in this phrase, I didn't say "low".

[Jatoo]

A friend of mine used to teach African students in an engineering school in China. He told me some African students especially those from Mali who were selected through the exams in Mali before being sent to China on scholarships, were well prepared and their academic performances were just as good as their Chinese classmates.

A friend of mine got his B.S. degree from Nigeria before going to China for his Ph.D. He was more prolific than many of his Chinese classmates during his study and got his Ph.D. about a year ago.

I saw many Africans were gifted in languages and succeeded in the U.S., U.K. and China, and I don't think the language barrier can prevent them from academic success as long as they are determined and put enough effort in their studies.

[sabresaurus]

Language barriers will always be a reason for an excuse. On of my African friends...he's so funny.  He spent a lot of his time in our language year bumming around/skipping his classes.  So he spent the 1st year of his actual course blaming it on language difficulties.

On the other hand I also know some people who don't consider it an obstacle.

If you work your arse off during your language year and form a solid foundation you should be alright.

[collinstexas]

If you work your arse off during your language year and form a solid foundation you should be alright.

Yeah,l agree. there are a lot of people thats studying here,so its needs concentration,l think.

God Help Us !!!

[baersworth]

And as for my saying "School fees are lower...and so is the quality of education", I still wouldn't take that back.  I said "lowER" in this phrase, I didn't say "low".
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You cannot just compare the fees then conclude the more expensive the better. They may be related but not the only factor. You have assumed that money is all that matter.
 

[baersworth]

the facts show that most universities topping the list are American & British universities.  China coming in anywhere after top 5 is already embarrassing, esp. for such a large, relatively well-established country; a country with universities scattered all over the place
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You can control how the list look like by choosing different kinds of criteria. It is a ranking complied by the west, so as long as the Western culture is still dominating the international arena, you cannot expect thing like that will be objective in a real universal sense.

[sally]

I totaly agree the education system in China is lower for sure.I wouldn't compare the price of studying something like aviation here with the states,it's much more cheaper here ,sabrina you got it so right,determination is through hard work,never use an excuse for not doing what you need to do.Studying here will be a little challenging.. but look at it this way you will prosper in your intended duties and still get to learn the language and use it.CHEERS.

[collinstexas]

You can say the education here in china is lower,but can you say it is ten times lower than that of the western? dont think so.but if you compare the fees,then you can see that the school fees here is relatively ten times lower than that of the US.And you can see many universities here that is more and more l mean more better than some universities in the west.so l think can grab the education here if u gotta have the money and willing to study.

Thanks

[promochuks]

Umm.......for real, one needs time for studies. But there's something i still disagree on, that is Language not being a barrier, i think that's not fully true. Language is a very big barrier as long as i'm concerned. I'll use myself as an Example.. My major is originally difficult coupled with Chinese language,it tends to be super tough. I proved myself to some people who simply wouldn't agree by passing my "Discrete Mathematics" which is totally in English and wasn't able to pass a simple Physics class,simply because it's in Chinese. I saw what one of u wrote here,

If you work your arse off during your language year and form a solid foundation you should be alright. [/b]

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Oh, come on!, there's a difference between Chinese language  and a difference between Chinese language of Engineering or any other major not related to da basic language. It's just like a person who understands English as a language but can't understand the English(terms) of Engineering, English of Medicine.....it's just like that, and i just simple disagree with the notion on the above quote. I believe that when one works hard he/ she can achieve but u can't classify that with the time spent studying the language. I hope ya'll get my point..I rest my comment for now. 

[baersworth]

Though it may not be easy to compare the education between China and other countries as you will have difficulty to find a real objective test for that. However, you can simply look at the technolgy level of China and you can see the picture. How many countries have the technology to produce spacecraft, 3rd generation combat aircraft, aircraft engine, nuclear plant, nuclear sub, etc. Those are the highest level of technology and engineering which need support in all aspect. Those scientists and engineers process those technology are the product of the education system of China.

[sabresaurus]

Oh, come on!, there's a difference between Chinese language  and a difference between Chinese language of Engineering or any other major not related to da basic language. It's just like a person who understands English as a language but can't understand the English(terms) of Engineering, English of Medicine.....it's just like that, and i just simple disagree with the notion on the above quote. I believe that when one works hard he/ she can achieve but u can't classify that with the time spent studying the language. I hope ya'll get my point..I rest my comment for now. 

There you go, it's just the same as if I were to study say...Medicine using English as the language medium.  There are a lot of medical terms I'm going to have to learn - but because I'm generally "capable" where English is concerned, I think I'll be alright.

So yeah, if you study your arse off in your language year you should be alright.  I didn't say it'd be easy...it won't, obviously.