Is China a place for black african?

I can’t deny that Chinese people has never discriminate against me before,,,, but ;;;; heyyyyy I just don’t care and I don’t give a damn  what they think about my color, I speaks Chinese and I understood every bad comments they make about blacks , but, we can’t sleep on this and I just think it’s all depends on how we take it and hoe we also behave ourselves.
 

For me, living in a foreign country is more of a surviving issue than winning respect from local people. When I lived in New York, in my neighborhood some black kids killed a young Chinese student, which stirred my peaceful life pretty much. For one month, i couldn't sleep well. So i have apprieciated it very much that I came back safe and sound. Also last year I planned to visit South Africa , which is a very very beautiful country. But I didn't make it, after i heard some Chinese businessmen were killed there.  I think you should at least feel lucky that no blacks were murdered by Chinese mobs here yet. (Did that ever happen here? Maybe i am not well-informed.)

I am not saying they are correct.you know,lying,cheating and all that dishonest life.I am just stating a fact which most blacks esp Africans,live from day to day.A sad reality I must confess.

Some Blacks ought to ask themrselves how it is that we present ourselves when we go out.  Do you go outsde prepetuationg a stereotype (ie baggy pants, NBA jerseys, etc) or are you projecting power.  When I step out of my apartment it's all about projecting power.  It starts with the way you dress.  I dress perfessionally (shirt, tie, slacks).

I've found, like every other Black here, that Chinese will stare at you.  Ask yourself...what do you want them to see?  Chinese tend to generalize.  Therefore, you have to accept the fact that you do not represent an individual.  You represent a group of people --the largest group of people on the planet, Blacks-- to Chinese that have never seen or spoken to an African.

Walk around with your head held high and let those comments slide right off you.  There are statues of Black gods in Chinese temples (including the Shaolin Temple).  Be sure you have that godhood.  This doesn't mean that you are arrogant it just means you know who you are and where you come from.

大黑， 大黑阁下！
非洲人， 非洲人开始人生！

I've found most people just want to talk to me.  Be careful what you say.  Sometimes it's necessary to maintain a certain mistic.  Let them project on you based on the way you put yourself across them.

 
I really understand your felling, as a chinese speaking french travailling a lot to africa, many chinese may ask the same question, as passing the passport control people ask only chinese for money even they do not have anything wrong with thier documents. However, do not go extremes , if you can read chinese just visit www.africawindows.com people knowing about africa do not think as you do, I have africain friends with out interest. we sincerely wish the developing of africa

Not agree? write to me thomas1997@sohu.com

...It is really disgusting to see how our brother and government worship chinese back home while we are facing and extreme racism in this country.

You're not Chinese/Asian, so you're in no position to state that the Chinese "back home" are worshipped.  I'm only half Asian and back home (in Africa) I've been labelled "Chinese" my whole life.  I have never been worshipped.  Worst of all I have been told to "go home" IN MY OWN COUNTRY.  I feel a whole lot 'safer' in China/Shanghai, I don't feel racially discriminated against.  So there, I suppose what goes around comes around.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not racist in any way.  I'm just saying that racism exists everywhere INCLUDING "back home" in Africa.

I am happy from the honest points most of you are raising about China.Actually experiences vary not only in time but in involvement of individuals.I guess my case is just so-so in the sense that I find it more interesting in seeing Chinese people staring at me everywhere I go,I find it proud to see all the Chinese coming to me and tell me they want to make friends with me,I find it acceptable and encouraged to see Chinese sending out whites from my school and honoring me as the best teacher in my institution,I find it more important to see Chinese ladies scrambling at my door step to have some taste of my tongue and most want to get marry to me,it is my pleasure that all my Chinese friends who went to Africa with me for a business trip, came back satisfied with the solidarity and accomodating habits of my friends and family members alike,I am satisfied enough to remain in China for another 6th year consecutively.

What instead get me upset is to see Blacks misbehaving and carrying out  mischievous activities,I also get mad to see Blacks tell lies that they are not Africans,what worries me is when most Blacks refuse their identities.What get Chinese behave a type sometimes is when they realise that you cannot represent what you claim to be.Like in schools where we find many blacks being refused positions;some cannot really deliver the goods,some can't really figure out their misrepresentation of their educational levels.

My advice is that understanding and respond are the key to success in China.We all know if Blacks don't teach they can do business,but at the end of the day things cannot go on both sides so most of them tend to live the harder way by crook or by hook.Good luck to all my black brothers and sisters.I encourage you all to fight back ,for this is what we are here for not to think of what treatment or what Chinese are thinking of us.Care less about that,fuggedaboutit!!

That's the best attitude yet Fritzane.

You guys got some major Issues!!

I am happy from the honest points most of you are raising about China.Actually experiences vary not only in time but in involvement of individuals.I guess my case is just so-so in the sense that I find it more interesting in seeing Chinese people staring at me everywhere I go,I find it proud to see all the Chinese coming to me and tell me they want to make friends with me,I find it acceptable and encouraged to see Chinese sending out whites from my school and honoring me as the best teacher in my institution,I find it more important to see Chinese ladies scrambling at my door step to have some taste of my tongue and most want to get marry to me,it is my pleasure that all my Chinese friends who went to Africa with me for a business trip, came back satisfied with the solidarity and accomodating habits of my friends and family members alike,I am satisfied enough to remain in China for another 6th year consecutively.

What instead get me upset is to see Blacks misbehaving and carrying out  mischievous activities,I also get mad to see Blacks tell lies that they are not Africans,what worries me is when most Blacks refuse their identities.What get Chinese behave a type sometimes is when they realise that you cannot represent what you claim to be.Like in schools where we find many blacks being refused positions;some cannot really deliver the goods,some can't really figure out their misrepresentation of their educational levels.

My advice is that understanding and respond are the key to success in China.We all know if Blacks don't teach they can do business,but at the end of the day things cannot go on both sides so most of them tend to live the harder way by crook or by hook.Good luck to all my black brothers and sisters.I encourage you all to fight back ,for this is what we are here for not to think of what treatment or what Chinese are thinking of us.Care less about that,fuggedaboutit!!

Are you okay man?

 .............why should'nt it be?  does it mean that we should all stay out of china and let them come to our countries in search of natural resources and at the same time benefit alone from the export/import business in africa ? many africans who are in china be it teaching or any other job have a dream of doing  business so in the long run it is china that gains new markets from the blacks who are here..... the few ones are the type of shit brains that were arrested in beijing selling drugs and all kind of dead end shit.............this is the group which   hard working africans in china wish  to kill with their own hands...coz this are the fools who spoil the african community image......i have known some few chinese who are racists but what the heck they dont know anything else other than hate .....people hate what they cant conquer.......so whoever thinks i have no right being in their country should not think they have a right to step their foot in mine also!......a  tooth for a tooth...... is a fair game!.....many blacks who travel out of their countries mostly are the highly ambitious ones who try to see their dreams come true regardless of the odds?........and by the way blacks dont come here to drill holes looking for oil/metals........we come to buy your stuff and try and build reliable businesses/companies.....if i come here and rent a house.......buy my food.......pay my bills.....bank my money in your  banks.............completely ignore your women.............and do my visa on time.........then china is a place for blacks...........why do they have oxygen then? .............

China has closed its doors for more than 1000 years, after Tang Dynasty, no foreigners were seen. (In Tang Dynasty, many foreigners mainly people from Middle East, Africa lived in Xian). Until last century foreigners came again as invaders with their warships. You can imagine what is the attitude of an ordinary Chinese towards foreigners. In some smaller places, you may just be the first one they have ever seen in their whole life, you cannot stop people from having curiousity on you. That also happened to Chinese who go to African villages, it is just the way of life. About 20 years ago when China opened its door again, there was a report that in Lanzhou the first foreigners went there were surrounded by 100,000 locals, count the number.

I don't know if your name is "badwolf" or "bear-like wolf"; but, I'd like to remind you that these forums are not debates with pros and cons or rather a theater for the reinforcement of the very ignorance we're trying tackle.Do you catch the meaning of curiousity? Are black people some alien species, u claim a 5000- year civilization; yet your knowledge of the the world around you is so limited. Instead of finding excuses u should be finding ways to amend your unculttured behaviour. "Ignorance is no excuse of the law". If u ever sat in a classroom b4, u should know that greeting is a basic criterion to solicit attention; u don't even greet people on the street and u begin to ask them where they come from. Think twice b4 u begin to defend your cousins that r yet to learn the trade of global civilization.

cheers

"Ignorance is no excuse of the law". ....
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Anyone goes to a different place where the people there do not see any foreigner totally different from them before will more less have the same traetment of curious. That is not unique in China. Chinese go to African village where people there have not seen Chinese before will have the same reaction, we have heard about that all the time. Why people have so many bad feeling about that ? BTW, you do not expect people in the small village have receieved much education not to mention about greeting a foreigner.

I agree with Baersworth.  Many Chinese are still new to the whole foreigner thing.  I think they deserve a lot more time to understand that in a civilized society (according to non-Chinese), staring & pointing at people is considered ill-mannered.  I don't think Baersworth is defending this "typical" Chinese behaviour, I think he's just explaining the situation from a Chinese perspective.

We want them so much to understand us, let's try to understand them as well.

I see both points of view.
For chinese villagers with limited education, I understand starting at foreigners.  It is super annoying.

But in Shanghai, I still receive stares and pointing.  I know that they have access to televisions  and have seen at least Tiger Woods.  Even though foreigners were not allowed to come into China, they were obviously allowed to leave.  If not we would not have so many "China towns" in America.  I know when I went on vacation to Jamaica, there were Chinese Jamaicans living there.  Also when I was in South Africa, they set up a community there.  So obviously Chinese people are not that ignorant of foreigners. 
Maybe to Sabrina's point, we have to be understanding of Chinese culture. 
@Bearworth
What is etiquette according to Chinese?  For example, in America:
- it is rude to stare or point at someone. 
- it is rude to answer your cellphone while you are having a conversation or in a meeting
- it is rude to burp and not say excuse me
- it is rude to jump in front of someone while they are queue
- it is rude to not move out of the way, when someone is trying to get off the elevator or subway
- it is okay to hand someone something with one hand.
What are some of Chinese manners that will help us or at least me become more understanding of Chinese people.  If you have any questions about black Americans or Americans in general let me know. 

What are some of Chinese manners that will help us or at least me become more understanding of Chinese people.  If you have any questions about black Americans or Americans in general let me know. 
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Even in many big cities in China, many of its people are in fact  migrate workers come from countryside, and they bring along with the bad "habits" from those un-educated floks. For those people the word "etiquette" is so alien to them. Etiquette is the result of education, more accurate the kind of modern  or western etiquette is the result of modern or western style of education. For those Chinese folks those are all unheard. For many Chinese people there is not even the concept of  personal space, not to mention western etiqutte, that is the reason people talking cell phone in a so annoying manner without considering the prersence of the others. About the rude manner in queues,  I believe that was mainly caused by our history of lacking in resource when the population wanting the resource was so huge, be in transportation and the like. Just imigine if you queue and wait you will "never" able to get something you need for your survival, you may change too as your bottom line is to survive. However, when the country is more plentiful in resource, that means you can wait only a little longer and your are sure that your turn will come very soon, only then you may not mind to join the queue and wait. About the main difference between Chinese and American etiqutte, I think it is the concept of personal space, for most of the Chinese especially the older generation, that just does not exist, that is the result of our history of emphasising on the collective value and individual is ignored for most of the time. BTW etiqutte is more less a cultural thing and some adjustment have to be made when people live in another culture, for example like handing something to someone with one hand is "rude" in China, not to answer the cell phone when it rings is also "rude" (to the caller), I have been critised for that, the caller just will not accept any reason or excuse :-(