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« on: April 17, 2008, 10:56:40 PM »

 BEIJING, April 15 (Reuters) - Chinese Internet users are calling on consumers to boycott Carrefour , the French retail giant they accuse of supporting pro-Tibetan independence groups seeking to disrupt this year's Beijing Olympics.

The Chinese were urged through text messages and online chat rooms not to buy goods from Carrefour outlets from May 1, with posts accusing the company of supporting funding for the Dalai Lama.
Spokesmen at Carrefour's China office could not be reached for comment. The Beijing News on Tuesday quoted a Carrefour spokesman surnamed Li as saying the company was investigating the boycott calls.
China has been waging a propaganda war against Tibet's exiled spiritual leader whom it accuses of masterminding deadly riots in Tibet's regional capital Lhasa last month and other ethnic Tibetan areas in neighbouring provinces.

The Dalai Lama has rejected the allegations, speaking out against the use of violence, calling for talks with China and backing the Beijing Olympics.

China says at least 18 innocent civilians were killed by Tibetan mobs. Tibet's government-in-exile, which is based in northern India, puts the death toll at 140, mostly victims of the crackdown.

The vast majority of Chinese people are enthusiastic about hosting the Olympics and many have rallied behind the government in denouncing pro-Tibetan independence groups as separatists and terrorists.
Protests repeatedly disrupted the Olympic torch's journey through Paris last week, and prompted scuffles between Tibet activists and pro-Chinese supporters.

"I think some Chinese citizens have recently expressed their own opinions and emotions," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Jiang Yu told a news conference, referring to the Carrefour boycott call.
"...We hope the French side can listen to the Chinese people's voices concerning the recent problems and adopt an objective position."

Supporters of the boycott call said brands under luxury goods group LVMH had "donated a lot of money to the Dalai Lama".

Carrefour is 10.7 percent-owned by Blue Capital, a holding company owned by property group Colony Capital and French billionaire Bernard Arnault, chairman and chief executive of luxury goods group LVMH .
"Adding the French people's support for Tibetan separatists during the Paris leg of the torch relay, there is truly no reason to give the French money by buying their goods," the boycott call said, posted on web portal Chinaren (www.chinaren.com).

"Let them see the Chinese people's power, and the power of the Internet," the post said.
Chinese Internet comments have also attacked Western media coverage of unrest in Tibet as biased towards pro-independence groups, and have said that news reports ignored cheering Chinese and foreign spectators to focus on disruptions to the torch relay.
(Reporting by Ian Ransom; Editing by Nick Macfie and Valerie Lee)
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2008, 12:47:47 AM »

The mainstream media has been biased over the Tibetan issue, but I don't see overreacting nationalism benefits China much. Chinese need to be more open and get used to different views and protests even absurd ones.

The media in the West need to realize their arrogance for their ignorant approach does not always work. They can't expect Chinese to trust a erstwhile slaveholder who fled to India because he lost battles to keep the slaves, someone who refused to condemn the killings and violence instigated by himself, someone who controls Tibet Youth Congress that advocates bombing and killing. Dalai Lama is a politician first and a monk second. He said committed democracy, but he never tolerated his opponents including Dorje Shugden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorje_Shugden), and his exile government were "elected" or installed with his siblings, cousins and friends. Dalai Lama had been sponsored by the CIA until the U.S. president Richard Nixon visited China. Even today, U.S. still is among the biggest donors to this "spiritual leader".

There is a lot of information on internet including documents, research papers, videos (YouTube) on history of Tibet, Dalai Lama, reports, lawsuits in India against Dalai Lama. And yet the media in the West chose to ignore them all; instead, many of them picked and chose, manipulated what they got to fit their belief RELIGIOUSLY.
 
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2008, 12:54:27 AM »

1.Carrefour did not attempt to snatch the Olympic flame.

2. Most stuff in Carrefour is made in China. ( a shot in the foot don't you think)

3. The US chaps did a similar thing after 9/11, they even started a movement to start calling French Fries,.. Freedom Fries. I think that helped with the war on terror!

4. Anyways i think the Chinese boycott should go ahead, it might help with the queues.

Have a nice day good people!
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2008, 11:20:00 AM »

I agree with number 4.   :)

The west is guilty of not "seeing the beam in it's own eye" or at least trying to cover it up.  In the US native Americans were driven to near extinction and lived in poverty until recently when they built their own casinos...not to mention 400 years of slavery of Black Africans, then replacing that system with cheap Chinese labor and the list goes on. 

I don't know the full story of both sides, but I agree that western media is unfair.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2008, 04:39:54 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLTm0xrG-v4
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2008, 07:14:54 AM »

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/04/21/europe/france.php

Paris mounts diplomatic charm offensive to mollify China

By Katrin Bennhold
 
PARIS: After a wave of anti-French protests in China, President Nicolas Sarkozy of France is sending three top officials there this week in a hastily assembled diplomatic charm offensive to limit the political and economic fallout from the controversy surrounding the preparations for the Olympic Games.

Thousands of protesters massed in front of Chinese outlets of the French supermarket chain Carrefour over the weekend, demonstrating against what they saw as France's support for pro-Tibet agitators and calling for a boycott of French goods.

France has become the main focus of a string of fiercely nationalistic protests in China, notably after footage of a 27-year-old Chinese athlete in a wheelchair protecting the Olympic torch from protesters as it passed through Paris this month turned her into a national hero and talk show star.

The dispute could herald a new chapter in relations between the West and China, the world's leading emerging economic powerhouse, analysts said. By allowing protests to take place and Web sites to call for a boycott in its tightly controlled state, the leadership in Beijing is for the first time flexing its economic muscle.

"China's self-confidence is growing even faster than its GDP," said Eberhard Sandschneider, a China expert and director of the research institute at the German Council on Foreign Relations in Berlin. "We're entering a new phase in Western-Chinese relations. The Chinese are beginning to use their economic power as a lever."

France's swift response suggests that the message has been heard. In addition to sending the three officials, Sarkozy met for an hour Friday in Paris with Zhao Jinjun, a special envoy of President Hu Jintao of China.

The president of the French Senate, Christian Poncelet, arrived in Shanghai on Monday, carrying a letter from Sarkozy that apologized for the events during the torch relay and invited Jin Jing, the disabled Chinese athlete who fended off pro-Tibetan activists during the torch relay, to visit Paris.

On Thursday, a former prime minister, Jean-Pierre Raffarin, is to arrive, and Friday it will be the turn of Sarkozy's chief diplomatic adviser, Jean-David Levitte, to reassure the Chinese leadership that France has no intention of straining relations.

Since China's clampdown on Tibetan protests in Lhasa, the capital, and nearby regions last month, Western governments have come under increasing pressure to use the Olympic Games as a lever to extract concessions from Beijing on human rights and Tibet. José Manuel Barroso, president of the European Commission, the executive arm of the European Union, will take up the issue when he visits Beijing on Thursday, a spokesman said Monday.

But with trade between the European Union and China now worth nearly €200 billion, or $320 million, a year, politicians are painfully aware of what is at stake.

The anti-French demonstrations were the most aggressive venting of nationalist fury since a dispute with Japan over history textbooks in 2005. On Saturday, demonstrators painted swastikas on French flags and carried banners calling Jeanne d'Arc a "prostitute" and Napoleon a "pervert."

For the past week, thousands of text messages have called for a boycott of French products, and at least one anti-Carrefour Web site has been created, urging Chinese customers to stay away from its stores.

Sarkozy has said he will attend the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games in August in Beijing only if China begins an official dialogue with the Dalai Lama, the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader. China has refused.

On Monday, the president's office stressed that this condition remained in effect.

"It is one of the elements that will determine whether the president attends the opening ceremony," said Franck Louvrier, Sarkozy's director of communications.

But Louvrier acknowledged that it was in France's interest to bring the protests in China to a swift end.

French officials played down the risks of a Chinese boycott of French goods, arguing that Beijing depended more on French consumers than France depended on Chinese consumers. China's exports to France are worth four times as much as French exports to China.

But the concern in the business community was plain. The chief executive of Carrefour, José Luis Durán, told the weekly newspaper Le Journal du Dimanche that China was of "strategic importance" to his company. Carrefour has 112 hypermarkets and more than two million customers in China.

Bernard Arnault, the chairman of LVMH Moët Hennessy-Louis Vuitton, the French luxury goods group, which has been the target of boycott calls, said last week that France should stop trying to teach China lessons.

"I understand why the Chinese population could be affected by the attacks against its country," Arnault said in an interview with Le Figaro. "It may be shocking to see what's happening in Tibet, but it's equally shocking to see China being attacked."

Some French commentators said the fact that "Made in China" goods were becoming ever more common may play a role in the popular anti-Chinese outcry over Tibet and may reflect a broader fear about China's growth and what is perceived by some as the West's relative demise.

"Under the noble defense of our 'universal values,' sometimes a racist stench hides that is quite contrary to the principles we pretend to incarnate," Le Figaro wrote in an editorial Monday. The pro-Tibetan mobilization "is that much stronger because it is fed by a fear of 'Made in China.' "

The European Union's trade deficit with China has been growing rapidly, and China is now considered the biggest threat in all EU countries except Spain, according to David Shambaugh, director of the China Policy Program at George Washington University, and concerns about the migration of jobs to China is on the rise.

But if positive perceptions of China have plummeted across Europe, the political response has not always been the same.

France's situation contrasts with that of Germany, which has the largest economy in Europe and has even more business at stake in China. Chancellor Angela Merkel drew Chinese ire and initially a scaling back of both business and political contacts after she received the Dalai Lama in her Berlin office last autumn.

Now, however, analysts say that Merkel looks smart. She made clear her view on human rights in China, and in a sense that has helped divert any popular anger now toward German businesses dealing with China. Volkswagen, for instance, is one of the major sponsors of the Beijing Olympic Games.

Merkel has made clear she will not go to the Olympic Games, but she is expecting to visit China shortly thereafter.

Meanwhile, Foreign Minister Frank Walter Steinmeier of Germany, a Social Democrat, apparently also moved swiftly to avert any awkwardness. He let it be known that he was on the phone with his Chinese counterpart for a full hour the day after the protests in Lhasa. The contents of that conversation have not been disclosed.

Steinmeier, who was chief of staff when Merkel's predecessor, Gerhard Schröder, was chancellor, deflected criticism that he was pushing business interests with China rather than addressing human rights concerns by initiating a program to enroll hundreds of Chinese students to study law in Germany.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2008, 12:42:36 PM »

Most stuff in Carrefour is made in China. ( a shot in the foot don't you think)
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It will affect the bargaining power between Carrefour and the local suppliers, if Carrefour is no longer popular. If you know how those big chain of supermarket run their business, you will know what I mean.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2008, 01:13:18 PM »

I went to Carrefour last Sunday and it was as packed as usual...
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